{"product_id":"7-14-inch-gauge-greenly-4-8-2-2-8-4-garratt-stock-code-5307","title":"7 1\/4 inch gauge Greenly 4-8-2 + 2-8-4 Garratt","description":"\u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003e\u003cfont color=\"#FF0000\"\u003eDecember 22nd - update\u003c\/font\u003e  \u003c\/p\u003e    \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eThanks to our friends at Maxitrak, I'm pretty sure we've  got this one identified. They have the Greenly archive of drawings, among which  is a complete set of thirty-five drawings for a 4-8-2 + 2-8-4 Garratt designed  by Ernest Steel (Greenly's son-in-law) for the Goodrington Sands Miniature  Railway - this ran in the 1950s, by the end of the decade it has been converted  to 10 1\/4 inch gauge.  \u003c\/p\u003e    \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eTheir GA matches what we've got exactly - cylinder sizes,  wheel diameters, wheel spacing and overall length. Details recorded on the GA  are as follows:  \u003c\/p\u003e    \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003e\"This locomotive is designed for heavy passenger  working on the Miniature Railway, Goodrington Sands, Paignton, South Devon. On  completion of the locomotive research and testing will be carried out on the  railway. It is built to a scale of two inches to the foot and for the standard 7  1\/4 inch gauge - representative of the full-size 3ft 6in gauge Rhodesian  Railways. Special attention has been given to accessibility of the motion and  valve gear and to the general matineance of the locomotive when in daily  use\".  \u003c\/p\u003e    \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eCylinders (6) 2 1\/4 in bore x 3 1\/4 in stroke\u003cbr\u003e  Coupled wheels 10 in diameter\u003cbr\u003e  Boiler pressure 120psi\u003cbr\u003e  Tractive effort 825 lb\u003cbr\u003e  Hauling capacity 8 1\/4 tons\u003cbr\u003e  Weight in working order 1 ton 7 cwt\u003cbr\u003e  Length 16 feet\u003cbr\u003e  Width 1 ft 6 in\u003cbr\u003e  Height around 27 inches (scaled from the GA)  \u003c\/p\u003e    \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eBuilder and final assembly - Land and Water Recreation Ltd,  Torquay\u003cbr\u003e  Design - Ernest A Steel\u003cbr\u003e  Chassis and components - C.T.Instrell and Co. Ltd, Torquay\u003cbr\u003e  Boiler etc - Kennion Bros (Hertford) Ltd  \u003c\/p\u003e    \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eI'm sure that this engine is the one built intended for  Goodrington Sands - the chassis commercially built as we thought, the boiler  finished but remaining uncollected until the last owner paid the balance on it  and took delivery, some 25 years after it was ordered. There are sketchy records  of the railway, including a list of locomotives that ran there, but the Garratt  isn't mentioned in accounts of the time.  \u003c\/p\u003e    \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eMaxitrak have the complete set of drawings available, of  inestimable value to whoever next takes this one on.  \u003c\/p\u003e    \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eYes, I know the LNER didn't build a 4-8-2 + 2-8-4 Garratt  (nor even a 4-8-2, let's be honest), but I've got to start somewhere with  this one.\u003co:p\u003e  \u003c\/o:p\u003e  \u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eThere are not many engines that manage to knock around  under the radar for fifty (or possibly sixty) years, but this may be one of  them. A seriously large project, this came into the hands of its last owner  thirty years ago, when it appeared for sale in an antique shop in Kent, in  pretty much the state you see it here. Intrigued, our man acquired the engine  (by a fairly roundabout route, it must be said) with the intention of having it  finished in his works\u003cspan style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e- at that time  fully occupied overhauling 4' 8 ½” gauge projects.\u003co:p\u003e  \u003c\/o:p\u003e  \u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eSome enquiries at the time turned up various sketchy leads  as to its provenance – one story alleged that Henry Greenly had been involved,  either in its design or construction (or possibly he just drew the boiler, it  was all a very long time ago). Another enquiry resulted in tracking down the  company who had been commissioned to build a copper boiler for it in the 1950s  – they still had the boiler, the original customer never having come up with  the readies to take delivery. This was acquired, united with the engine and  then, some time in the intervening years, lost again (given the price of scrap  copper, not difficult to imagine). Which, to date, is about the sum total of  information we have on this one.\u003co:p\u003e  \u003c\/o:p\u003e  \u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eSo, here is a well-advanced, very large Garratt. The  chassis are Gresley through and through, three-cylindered with conjugated gear,  the 2 to 1 lever fluted out and pivoted pretty much exactly the same as our 15  inch gauge A3. Cast iron cylinders have piston valves, Walschaert's gear  outside, Gresley-Holcroft for the inside. Both chassis are complete, including  all brake gear, and look to be at a stage where, with a good clean, they could  be run on air. Wheels are about ten inch diameter on the treads, which would  scale up to 80 inches at 1 ½ inches to the foot – close to an A3's 6'  8” drivers.\u003co:p\u003e  \u003c\/o:p\u003e  \u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eThe LNER built their Garratt\u003cspan style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\"\u003e  \u003c\/span\u003e- the U1 “Wath Banker” - whilst it  produced a big locomotive, the driving wheels were small at 4' 8”, so this is not that.\u003co:p\u003e  \u003c\/o:p\u003e  \u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eGresley did produce an outline design for a “Super A3”,  a stretched 4-8-2 version of his express Pacific – never built, but looking  quite similar in several respects to these chassis. I've never seen one  modelled (it would be a mighty great thing in 7 ¼ inch gauge), let alone a pair  coupled together.\u003co:p\u003e  \u003c\/o:p\u003e  \u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eEast African and New Zealand each had 4-8-2 + 2-8-4,  six-cylinder locomotives built by Beyer Peacock, which sounds like you're  getting close – except this thing looks very much of British standard gauge  proportions.  \u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eSo I have to say that neither I nor its previous keeper  know what this one is, apart from a particularly nice piece of engineering.\u003co:p\u003e  \u003c\/o:p\u003e  \u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eWork to date has been done to a high standard – it was  possibly professionally built. Fit and finish of the motionwork is very good,  the rods are all fluted out accurately - despite many years accumulation of muck  and oil the chassis push along easily. The bridge frame is a substantial  fabrication, just about liftable single-handed (although I wouldn't want to go  far with it).\u003co:p\u003e  \u003c\/o:p\u003e  \u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eWhilst not a weekend's work to finish, there is a huge  amount of work been done already – I would be (am, actually) tempted to put in  an order for a new steel boiler while the chassis was being stripped, cleaned  and painted, with a view to getting the thing at least moving under its own  steam shortly after the boiler arrived.\u003co:p\u003e  \u003c\/o:p\u003e  \u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eA super, completely bonkers project that is crying out for  somebody to take on and finish. No idea where you'd keep it, how you'd  transport it or where you'd run it\u003cspan style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\"\u003e \u003c\/span\u003e-  pretty much what I thought when I bought my first steam roller.\u003co:p\u003e  \u003c\/o:p\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e    \u003cp class=\"MsoNormal\"\u003eA possibility should you not fancy something quite this big  would be to extend the rear frames to accommodate a Cartazzi truck, continuing the build as a pair of LNER-inspired 4-8-2s (and you could still  double-head should the urge take you).  \u003c\/p\u003e    \u003cp align=\"left\"\u003eLength - each chassis\u003cbr\u003e  Overall 70 inches\u003cbr\u003e  Pivot to buffer beam 50 inches\u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp align=\"left\"\u003eBridge frame\u003cbr\u003e  Overall 101 inches\u003cbr\u003e  Between pivots 91 inches\u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp align=\"left\"\u003eOverall length assembled 191 inches\u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp align=\"left\"\u003eCurrent weight\u003cbr\u003e  Pair chassis \u0026amp; bogies 842 pounds\u003cbr\u003e  Centre frame est 150 pounds\u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp align=\"left\"\u003eWhich is almost exactly the same as my Tinkerbell - completed  weight is going to be something up around three quarters of a ton.\u003c\/p\u003e  \u003cp align=\"center\"\u003e\u003c\/p\u003e","brand":"Station Road Steam","offers":[{"title":"Default Title","offer_id":54009787154773,"sku":"5307","price":6950.0,"currency_code":"GBP","in_stock":false}],"thumbnail_url":"\/\/cdn.shopify.com\/s\/files\/1\/1023\/0094\/2677\/files\/5307-1.webp?v=1779899207","url":"https:\/\/stationroadsteam.com\/products\/7-14-inch-gauge-greenly-4-8-2-2-8-4-garratt-stock-code-5307","provider":"Station Road Steam","version":"1.0","type":"link"}